![]() ![]() But I think it's still clear to everyone that ATLA treats their young cast with moral agency. Not every redemption has to be the same as his. Sure, Ozai is completely out of the picture now that he's rotting in jail, but I also don't expect her to change the same way Zuko did. I'm not gonna be an asshole and say "bUt zUkO wAs aLsO aBusEd bY tHeiR dAd aNd hE tUrnEd oUt gReaT afTEr beiNG sEpArAtEd fRoM hiM", because that's objectively wrong since her trauma is fundamentally different from Zuko's. She even blamed her current situation on her mom, and although it's true that her mother's neglect is one of the reasons why she turned out so deranged, she is still ultimately responsible for overcoming her own trauma. In the comics, Zuko, Iroh and the rest of the Gaang tried to help her change for the better by having her accompany Zuko in finding their mom, but she completely fucking blows it by trying to kill her and starting a cult that kidnaps children. She managed to conquer a whole city mostly on her own, so the "she's a child" explanation has certain limitations since she's clearly more intelligent than the average 14 year old. Even though she is a kid, she isnt that little, so it's still kind of expected that she is capable of some level of introspection for the things she's done. Rape is more taboo than mass murder, but the comic clearly showed that she also felt remorse for raping Mark and that she went through a similar learning process as Nolan.Īlso, I heard Vegeta's redemption was similar to Nolan's in that he was born a space Nazi that eventually grew to love humans and fight alongside the protagonist, but I've never watched a single Dragonball episode and I dont plan to simply bc I lack the patience.Īzula on the other hand, has not shown remorse for her actions as far as we know. Anissa, another Viltrumite, was a literal rapist but she also got redeemed and learned to make it up to Mark and care for the human race as well. And Nolan isn't even unique in this aspect. Of course he can't bring back all the people he's killed, but he's done a lot of good to make up for that by firmly fighting alongside his son and protecting the human race from Thragg and other villains who pose a threat to them. It's also because he felt genuine remorse for the shit he's done and has done everything that's needed to make it up to his family and Earth in general. Also, even though both of them were indoctrinated by fascists, Azula was a child, and children tend to lack the mental wiring needed to be fully aware of their actions.īut at the same time, it's Nolan who turns out to be more redeemable than her, but that isn't only because Invincible has different moral standards. The only person she kills onscreen is Aang, who is also involved in the war like her, whereas Nolan murdered thousands of civilians, with the train scene being one of his most heinous actions. But she also hasn't been shown to commit mass murder on the scale that Nolan did, and Nolan arguably hurt Mark more than Azula hurt Zuko (not only bc Mark's beating was brutal, but also bc Nolan destroyed Mark and Debbie's trust unlike Zuko who's always known Azula to be manipulative and deceiving). Sure, she is cruel, controlling and unstable, and she's also capable of hurting the people she cares about. On paper, Azula crimes aren't as bad as Nolan's. ![]() Put put those cartoons aside, I'm gonna compare two more serious and grounded examples, being Azula from ATLA and Omni-Man (Nolan Grayson) from Invincible. So obviously, Swiper almost never gets away with his shenanigans otherwise kids would get the wrong ideas, whereas Eric Cartman's crimes are brushed aside cuz adults are already fully aware that Eric Cartman is a little shit.īut the most important factor in determining whether a villain deserves redemption or not is if they genuinely want it and are willing to work their asses off for it. Like, obviously Dora the Explorer and South Park have far different moral standards despite both being cartoons since the former is aimed at kids and is trying to teach them to grow into good people, whereas the latter touches on more edgy and/or mature topics and recent events. This is because of several factors such as the moral standards of the story, what kind of setting the characters live in, and who the target demographic of the work is. ![]()
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